A Bit of a Repair Going on....

User avatar
Bonnielad
Global Moderator
Posts: 1467
Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:38 pm

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Bonnielad » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:04 pm

Just to enlighten you on a few questions. The stainless complete exhaust came from Force. The silencer then needed polishing because it still had weld stains on it so the headers are their standard stainless items.
Gary, I also put the ignition switch in the same spot - so I thought I had the patent on that ;)
As far as 'getting it dirty' is concerned, that has never bothered Paul. Take a look at the youtube link. This is from the Yorkshire Dales earlier this year and it was the bikes first outing after its first rebuild. As you will see, it got a proper 'baptism'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbfpiCXGEw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (bear with it for the first minute, Worz put the camera down to help Someone paddling in the river)

Finally, I'm sorry Steve but I don't agree with your diagnosis on the reason for the accident. You suggest that the side stand jammed into the disc but if the stand was to meet the disc at that point, physics would dictate that it couldn't jam. At the point of potential contact the disc is running towards the rear of the bike away from the stand so the worst that could happen would be a rubbing/grinding. There would also be some evidence on the sidestand.
Can't wait to see it done.

Steve
0 x
2024 (2012) CCM MT230
2003 Triumph Thunderbird Sport
2002 BMW F650GS

User avatar
jamba
Posts: 366
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:03 am
Location: Ruhtinansalmi, Finland
Location: Finland

Re: Vs: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by jamba » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:16 pm

So.. that's the way you keep your bikes clean :)
0 x

Mr Shiney

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Mr Shiney » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:16 pm

nally, I'm sorry Steve but I don't agree with your diagnosis on the reason for the accident
It's a theory, but there was a big chunk out the stand and a big chunk out the brake disk which led me to it.

It could have been anything but it's the best explanation I have found so far!!
0 x

User avatar
Bonnielad
Global Moderator
Posts: 1467
Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:38 pm

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Bonnielad » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:07 pm

I wasn't aware of the damage. I could of course bow to your greater knowledge but I forgot to mention that there was no black line on the road to suggest any kind of rear wheel lock up. :? Shame Paul can't remember. If I had been a bit closer...etc etc.
0 x
2024 (2012) CCM MT230
2003 Triumph Thunderbird Sport
2002 BMW F650GS

User avatar
Minter
Posts: 5696
Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 7:42 pm
Location: Boston, Lincolnshire

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Minter » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:08 am

Yep zero skid marks on the road just gouge marks and skin! Me and ade picked the bike up still in 5th gear!
0 x
SPORTAX Racing ROTAX
http://www.sportaxracing.co.uk
MTRC Shopkeeper
http://sportaxracing.co.uk/product-category/mtrc-shop/
Manuals & Technical Publications on above MTRC shop link

appyarry
Posts: 1526
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:39 pm
Location: Lyminge, Kent.

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by appyarry » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:53 am

If the rear wheel locks solid then the tire is often lifted off the tarmac. depending on the force/momentum the bike is thrown up and over or down side ways depending on what the rider is doing at the time, apart from finding out the true colour of adrenaline that is! :-)

I have seen a two stroke seize solid at speed, the pictures show a complete 360° forward roll before the bike went sideways down the road. He was in hospital only for a few days and is fine now, a very lucky man.

Ta,
0 x
Serveta Jet 200
Triumph Tigress 250
BSA C15 to be rebuilt as Scrambler
Sinclair Goddard PowerPak
Kalkhoff Endeavour 11 Speed Hub

Mr Shiney

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Mr Shiney » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:16 am

appyarry wrote:If the rear wheel locks solid then the tire is often lifted off the tarmac. depending on the force/momentum the bike is thrown up and over or down side ways depending on what the rider is doing at the time, apart from finding out the true colour of adrenaline that is! :-)

I have seen a two stroke seize solid at speed, the pictures show a complete 360° forward roll before the bike went sideways down the road. He was in hospital only for a few days and is fine now, a very lucky man.

Ta,
Pretty much what I think happened. The damage to the rest of the bike would indicate that it went down hard sideways. You can see the reference marks on the brake disk where the stand dug into it. An instant lock up and the bike flipped sideways and slid down the road bending the frame, and bars etc.

It's as good a theory as any and the only one with any physical evidence to support it.
0 x

Mr Shiney

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Mr Shiney » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:24 am

Another finishing touch, the steering lock stops as standard are crap. Leaving the bolt bare just damages the back of the yoke so I knocked up an alternate. It's machined from a fairly soft nylon which absorbs the impact without marking but is tough enough to not break.

Image
0 x

User avatar
Minter
Posts: 5696
Joined: Sun May 30, 2010 7:42 pm
Location: Boston, Lincolnshire

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Minter » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:05 am

Nice one Steve.. I like that! When new they did come with a rubber cap but i dont think there was a part number for it..
0 x
SPORTAX Racing ROTAX
http://www.sportaxracing.co.uk
MTRC Shopkeeper
http://sportaxracing.co.uk/product-category/mtrc-shop/
Manuals & Technical Publications on above MTRC shop link

Mr Shiney

Re: A Bit of a Repair Going on....

Post by Mr Shiney » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:40 am

Minter wrote:Nice one Steve.. I like that! When new they did come with a rubber cap but i dont think there was a part number for it..

Yep! The rubber cap is no longer available. There is a plastic replacement from LMS that I fitted first and the first time I swung the handlebars round it split in two!!! Thats why I decided to re invent the wheel and do it my way. Bored them to an interference fit and tapped on with a plastic mallet so they won't come off. The hole through the centre then allows an allen key to go in an adjust if needed. Seemed a graceful solution for 15min of work.
0 x

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 204 guests