Fuel injected Armstrong 500? Am I mad?

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Post by bth2bth2 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:57 pm

i very much doubt it :lol:



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Post by Yoof » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:58 pm

Got it running a lot better today. Managed to get fuelling good up to around 6000rpm. Defiantly a slow process of changing one thing at a time then testing and adjusting etc...
Nearly there!
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Post by zzr1100d1 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:44 pm

Keep at it, interested in your results

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Post by Yoof » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:28 pm

Couple of screen shots of the tuning process.... :shock:

This is the main tuning interface. Thats the fuel VE table. Basically up the y axis is engine/fuel load and along the x axis is rpm.
Each number can be changed to either increase or decrease the amount of fuel at that load/rpm.
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This program is for logging data while I test ride. It shows every possible bit of information of whats happening. It can also analyse my run and using the air fue ratio results it can generate an improved VE table.
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Re: Fuel injected Armstrong 500? Am I mad?

Post by Thumper » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:38 pm

Not sure I understand Fuel Load

Is it a % of the optimised air fuel ratio?
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Post by Yoof » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:45 pm

Im using whats called Alpha-N algorithm, it calculates load by sensing throttle position, airbox air temp and current rpm. It eliminates the need for a MAP/MAF sensor to detect the differences in air pressure in the manifold as apparently on a big single there can be alot of noise that can confuse the computer.
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Re: Fuel injected Armstrong 500? Am I mad?

Post by namtip » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:46 am

Wow, this is serious stuff for the uninitiated!

Watching with interest... Good work Yoof! Congratulations on treading new paths for MTs!

PS. Is it possible to have EFI with a kickstart-only setup?
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Post by Yoof » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:18 am

Yes I don't see why not, it would just need a little more tuning for start up and I'm sure it would work fine. I will try kicking mine when I've got it sorted.
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Re: Fuel injected Armstrong 500? Am I mad?

Post by Blitz » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:21 pm

WTF
Thought you were winging it MT style. Not going down the
N. A. S. A route.

Very impressive an MT and a computer in the same room
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Re: Fuel injected Armstrong 500? Am I mad?

Post by Yoof » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:15 pm

Well its at a stage now where I can ride it and it will start well but theres still fine tuning to be done. Im well chuffed :D It pulls like a train! feels a bit more powerful especially in the mid range. Cant wait to get it on the dyno again!
Took a little video of a test run.
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