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Diesel bike

Post by sween » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:09 pm

I saw this on a Royal Enfield forum and thought that some people on here may be interested.
I feel that the military were clutching at straws with this idea, as I feel that this bike would have seamed a bit antiquated on a battle field in 1995.
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Re: Diesel bike

Post by Wirralman » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:54 pm

Single fuel, a good idea for the military.

As a sprog who had never used diesel, I was given a few Jerry cans of diesel and a few of petrol on a night replenishment ( refuel). The whole idea was to do things as quietly and with as little light as possible. In the fuel went but the error was soon realised- next step - drain 56 gallons of fuel into the ground and refill with petrol.

Much later armoured cars were converted to diesel. A mixed fleet is a military nightmare

I think there have been other attempts KTM? to build a diesel engined military bike but it was unsuccessful
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Re: Diesel bike

Post by lardmarc » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:39 am

Looking at the picture I'd say that was possibly a pre-Armstrong CCM frame.

Can't see much Armstrong going on.
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Re: Diesel bike

Post by hounddog » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:51 am

I read that the US military did use a diesel Kawasaki KLR650, resulting from a single fuel requirement , Other plus point was fuel economy 100mpg.
Never really a civilian market for diesel bikes,. Heavy engines, noisy, vibration , poor acceleration and low bhp and low top speeds (not as good as a 125 petrol bike) are not great selling points , . Enfield did also make a 400cc diesel as i recall.
With R&D now concentrating on electric for the future i suppose there is no appetite for developing these now , which is a shame as unusual bikes are always intetesting
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Re: Diesel bike

Post by mt bandit » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:25 pm

Very SWM
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Re: Diesel bike

Post by lardmarc » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:29 pm

mt bandit wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:25 pm
Very SWM
I'd love to show you the evidence for why you are wrong but then you'd know as much as me. I'll show you next time I come over once this lock down number three proves to be pointless..
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Re: Diesel bike

Post by Sloppy Link » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:59 am

The common fuel dream actually revolves around AVTUR or JP8 depending where you live. Diesel engines can be converted across fairly straightforward but petrol is a lot trickier unless you add something to bring the flashpoint up and, in a lot of these engines, the fuel is also used as a lubricant and for cooling. It’s mainly filters, pumps and nozzles that need adjusting, also less time between servicing.
Op Granby, a pal running low on fuel put some CIVGAS from a passing UBRE into a Lynx, worked out he had about 50/50 mix with the remaining AVTUR in the tanks. We had Rolls-Royce reps in theatre with us, they pretty much shrugged it off. The engines ran a little hotter but that was about it.
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