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CK1972
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Re: VIN numbers - I want yours.......

Post by CK1972 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:57 am

In my day armoured vehicles Ferret Saladin Saracen Fox were all A vehicles
You're right- my mikstake. On the Ferret's card it in deed reads "A" 8-)
The big difference to use was that there were no forms and fuel logs with A vehicles whereas to move B vehicles you needed a form and log sheet to record fuel usage
That's interesting- I would have expected it the other way round.
In the German army we need forms for every kind of vehicles- except bicycles :roll: :lol:
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Post by Wirralman » Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:07 pm

CK1972 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:57 am
That's interesting- I would have expected it the other way round.
In the German army we need forms for every kind of vehicles- except bicycles :roll: :lol:
When doing a tactical replen, it's usually at night Driver stops by fuel truck and shouts for example '4 cans' The cans are put as quietly as possible on the back decks and the driver pulls away 200 metres Petrol tanks are filled to the top The cans empty, half full, or unused are dumped, to be collected later by the fuel truck driver Vehicles quietly leave

Re-fuelling tactically is a very dangerous time for armoured vehicles and is not complicated by paperwork

The British army on peacetime also has lots of paperwork but refuelling A vehicles is paper free !
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Re: VIN numbers - I want yours.......

Post by CK1972 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:55 pm

refuelling A vehicles is paper free
Not so in the German Army :roll:
There are "diaries" for every vehicle. You've got to write down every litre of petrol, oil, or whatsoever in them.
I served in the equivalent to the British REME and fortunately never had to refuel a tank by jerry cans :mrgreen:
A few years ago I watched a "hot refuel" of an Apache Gunship from a few metres away- that was quite impresive and everything
else but quitly :mrgreen:
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Re: VIN numbers - I want yours.......

Post by Wirralman » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:39 pm

CK1972 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:55 pm
refuelling A vehicles is paper free
Not so in the German Army :roll:
fortunately never had to refuel a tank by jerry cans :mrgreen:
I was operating in and around the FEBA , forward edge of battle area Tanks would usually operate behind us, so probably fueling from a bowser Arceye would know

Yes helicopters are interesting machines, unless they are attacking you As for fighter/bombers attacking and dumping warm jet fumes on you , more exciting still
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Post by Gilk » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:37 pm

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Re: VIN numbers - I want yours.......

Post by Sloppy Link » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:24 pm

Sloppy Link wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:32 pm
MT 500
C701 FAH
193205 - looks like it has been done by hand
000610 - the 10 is slightly offset

Q1. What does this tell me about the provenance of the machine?
Q2. Who do I write to for the military records?

Fanks

Matt
Update;
Equipment Registration Mark 06 KE 11
Entered Service 10 Sep 85 - Rubber stamped “HILTON”, dunno what this means
15 Apr 86 - 23 Apr 86 Fwd Dep REC BAOR (I’m Ex-Army but don’t recognise this unit, guessing some form of RAOC/RLC issuing depot)
No issue voucher, received to 47 Fd Regt RA 11 Jul 86 (now a Watchkeeper unit)
Issued/received 26 Fd Regt RA 7 Apr 89 (now a GMLRS unit)
Cast 4 Apr 95
Disposal Services Agency (Germany) 18 Sep 95
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Post by Wirralman » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:51 pm

Hilton CVD Central Vehicle Depot, Derbyshire
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Post by Sloppy Link » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:48 pm

Wirralman wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:51 pm
Hilton CVD Central Vehicle Depot, Derbyshire
Aha! I only knew of Ashchurch and Ludgershall.
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Re: VIN numbers - I want yours.......

Post by arceye » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:02 pm

Wirralman wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:39 pm
CK1972 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:55 pm
refuelling A vehicles is paper free
Not so in the German Army :roll:
fortunately never had to refuel a tank by jerry cans :mrgreen:
I was operating in and around the FEBA , forward edge of battle area Tanks would usually operate behind us, so probably fueling from a bowser Arceye would know

Yes helicopters are interesting machines, unless they are attacking you As for fighter/bombers attacking and dumping warm jet fumes on you , more exciting still
We had to do a tactical refuel at night several times with jerry cans. A pain on a Chieftain Bridge layer with bridge on. :roll: We had about 3 feet of space to tip the cans in. :?
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Post by Wirralman » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:04 pm

arceye wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:02 pm
We had to do a tactical refuel at night several times with jerry cans. A pain on a Chieftain Bridge layer with bridge on. :roll: We had about 3 feet of space to tip the cans in. :?
Ouch ! The absolute max I ever had was 6 cans(petrol), usually at night , with a vehicle commander saying 'Keep the noise down !) Theoretically we were supposed to use a funnel, with the mesh filter pushed down slowing the fuel flow, whilst at the same time doing it quickly because we were sitting ducks. Once replenned, it was scoot out of the danger area. A Chieftain must have been a nightmare and taken ages
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